J: Did you know there’s a new 50 Shades book called Grey? I just discovered that this morning.
M: I’ve been seeing the ads on Amazon and Goodreads for weeks
Every day. Many times a day.
Now this makes me realize I’m spending waaaay too much time online and looking at books on Amazon
J: I probably had an inkling it was coming but pushed it aside. Then I opened Goodreads to find my feed clogged with reviews. I guess it came out last week.
So, if anyone was wondering if I’d pre-ordered it, the answer’s no.
I did take a few minutes to go through some of my friends’ reviews, though
J: well, the ones that didn’t like seemed to dislike for the same reasons I’d avoid it
There’s no inner goddess doing the meringue in this one, but apparently his dick gets its own POV
Just what we need. More dick POV
J: Well, you know how I feel about the whole thing anyway. But let’s get real: about all books past, present and future. Is it necessary to tell the exact same story from another character’s POV? Ever?
J: If it covers new ground, maybe. If it starts before or after the first story… I don’t know. Mostly, no.
And I say this as someone who’d defo read Midnight Sun if it was released
and then probably hate myself afterward
M: And I say as someone who, for fun, wrote a dual POV story once upon a time.
I like additional scenes, maybe
A lot of the time, what makes the hero so swoony is not knowing what he thinks but building from the author’s creation with clues they give you and adding your own take
I’d rather have hints given to me from the heroine’s POV than a straight POV change because it can be disappointing. Not living up to what I’d imagined in my head.
J: Like, part of me would love to read Ivan’s POV from Del Dryden’s The Theory of Attraction
just because I want to know how much he liked the heroine before they entered the agreement. Did he have a crush on her already or just take advantage of a willing participant?
I wanna know.
If he’d hinted at it at all in the book, I’d be happy enough, but he didn’t.
He never let slip how he’d felt before.
We can kind of hope… maybe see stirrings of it, but no confirmation
Heh. I’d just be happy enough with a tweet from Del saying “yes. he was crazy about her”
wouldn’t need a whole book about it.
M: The wanting to know really pulls you in, though, and keeps you thinking about the story and characters. I mean, here we are, what, a year or more after you read the book and you’re still thinking about it? Cool.
I’d rather have hints given to me from the heroine’s POV or what the hero says and does rather than a straight blow-by-blow retelling.
J: From how I felt after the original 50 Shades, there’s a high potential for ridiculous with Grey.
M: well, yeah. I personally couldn’t get into the other books. The heroine annoyed me too much (among the usual technical headbangers that have been discussed ad nauseam)
That’s one mystique that should always and forever remain so
end of conversation
I can’t even write about it without breaking into gagging giggles
A talking dick. eeeeeeeeee
J: It’s obviously not the subject matter that sucks some folks object to
M: no, like 50 Shades series or not, the plot and characters strike a chord
a deep one
and there are so many good alternatives or additions, depending on how you feel
J: In all honestly, I probably wouldn’t have discovered some of these books without the 50 Shades hype
but now that I have, I don’t have much use for Grey. Just being honest. That’s probably mean.
I think that’s maybe when I read Lila Dubois’s Undone Lovers series the first time. Did I send you that one, or did you rec them to me?
M: I think I got the first one, Undone Rebel, on sale, maybe.
Ohh yeah, read her geekish dom and thought you’d appreciate. I liked the series. She’s republishing them with new covers this summer/fall, her website says.
J: Definitely a fun read. All three from the Undone Lovers series were fun.
And now she’s doing the BDSM Checklist series, A is For.., B is For…, etc.
which I’ll buy fairly immediately
Oh, I did read the Science of Temptation books first. I remember that.
The Delphine Dryden geek dom series
M: I liked those as well. Kind of Dom-lite, definitely good and engaging
J: you know me and my geek heroes, too
M: doing a good believable geek dom is pretty difficult, but both those authors/series pulled it off well
J: ugh. the first dom in the Dubois series was my favorite.
I guess I like a bit of humanity in there somewhere
M: you like a bit of geekiness in there somewhere. heh
J: that, too
M: like you said, one thing I do think is inarguably good about the 50 Shades popularity is that it brought erotica more into the light
M: Well-written, engaging erotica of all heat levels and types
Also opened the door for some great new more-on-the-sexy-side stories, authors, and series
I like Kit Rocha’s Beyond series (the fist one, Beyond Shame, is free!). Some more than others, but all are solid. Sexy. Well written
And I liked CD Reiss’s Songs of Submission series (first one, Beg, also free, but heads up, it’s not a standalone) right up until the last one which made me all kinds of argh, but I’d still definitely rec
of course, Sylvia Day’s Crossfire series, but I only read the first two before I lost interest
J: I read Kit Rocha’s first couple
They didn’t stick with me quite as much, but I’m pretty sure it was my craving for a little more geek
the heroes in those were so vulnerable
M: I don’t think I’ve read those particular titles, but I do like everything else I’ve read by her
they shall go to the top of my TBR list
J: we’ve talked about Charlotte Stein’s deep POV before
how it takes a bit to get into it, but then you’re INTO it
like, right in the heroine’s head
M: yeah, her style kind of threw me at first, but then I was all in
J: I’d read any of these again before reading Grey. Maybe even tonight.
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